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welcome to welfare clinic today we have

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a very special guest guest needs no

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introduction he has been former member

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of Bethel green and B and Bradford uh

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West who has been outspoken on issues

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affecting people's of this country and

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around the world it's none other than

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George Galloway George welcome uh to the

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show it's a pleasure um I want to start

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off um talking about the European refere

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and your support for the grassroot uh

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campaign and you recently attended a

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rally uh with Nigel fra knowing you well

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as um I do I thought how was it to be in

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a platform with a man that you literally

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have nothing in common well there were a

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lot of Labor people too uh on the

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platform uh although some of them I

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didn't have anything in common with

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either uh the truth is this is a binary

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Choice one or the other there's no

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Shades of Gray permitted you either vote

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to stay in the European Union or you

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vote to leave it so undoubtedly there

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are people you could call them strange

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bed fellows on either side of the aisle

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uh those who wish to remain include

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Jeremy Clarkson Tony Blair Goldman Sachs

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David Cameron George Osborne I could go

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on and that must be uncomfortable for

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people uh who are labor inclined to be

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on the same side of an argument with

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them and ditto uh me with some of the

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people I shared a platform with at that

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uh out rally but I'm convinced uh after

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the events in Greece uh and I announced

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this nobody seemed to notice it very

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much I announced this uh over a year ago

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uh at a meeting on Greece that I could

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know longer urge anyone to support this

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European Union it's not because I don't

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like Europe I love Europe it's not

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because I don't like Unity I love unity

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but this particular political

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organization uh called the EU now called

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the EU when we first voted for it it

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wasn't of course a union it was a common

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market I campaigned against it under the

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leadership of Mr Tony Ben uh my

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political father then for most of my

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life uh and uh we lost but over the

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decades the Common Market has become

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something quite different it's become a

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trap a trap for our own people and a

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trap that keeps out uh people like you

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from a commonwealth uh background and uh

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one of the reasons why I'm campaigning

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in uh the eent is to persuade

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Commonwealth citizens that actually they

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have the most to gain from from uh

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leaving the EU both in terms of

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immigration uh and in terms of uh job

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opportunities you know Once Upon a Time

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citizens of the Commonwealth had

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preference here as well they should

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because we stole everything the

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Commonwealth had to offer so the least

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we owed them was a Visa without having

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to crawl through a hoop to get it but

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there's a lot of restriction now on

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people coming from Commonwealth in terms

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of immigration you have the bride price

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having to show £18,000 worth of in it's

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23 Now 23 uh now it's a huge sum for

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people to show on paper that they are

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earning the difficulties of getting

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visas you call this the welfare Clinic

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as you know for nearly 30 years as an MP

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I had a weekly welfare clinic and most

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of the cases were about visas and it's

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like getting a camel through the eye of

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a needle to get a commonwealth citizen

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in even for a wedding or a funeral uh or

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uh other vital family uh occasions

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whereas a Bulgarian can walk in with all

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his wives and all his family anytime at

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all without a Visa live here work here

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claim here put his name down for a

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council house here and so on so uh I

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think that Britain's 7 million

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Commonwealth citizens have the most to

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gain from Britain leaving the EU um I

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believe you you was uh strongly in favor

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of uh staying in Europe not so long ago

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what has changed that you now uh

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campaigning to leave Europe two years

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ago I announced uh 20 21 months ago I

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announced that I could no longer support

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the European Union and it was over the

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issue of Greece because that showed that

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the EU had become a European Central

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Bank IMF European uh Commission troa

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that was ready to crush any individual

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democracy if people in Ireland voted to

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reject the lbon treaty as they did they

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were forced to vote again until they

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changed the result the people of Greece

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voted and then voted again and then

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voted again for uh a course of action

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that would have ended the horrific

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austerity we've had bad austerity here

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but the people of Greece half of the

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children in Greece are hungry literally

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hungry officially according to European

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statistics more than a third of the

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health budget in Greece has been

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completely demolished so the treatment

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of Greece and other countries like Spain

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Portugal Ireland uh persuaded me that

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actually in so far as the European Union

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had ever done anything good for us and

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you could see a few small things in the

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late ' 80s early '90s uh this was

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deadner and that we would no more want

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to be in their Embrace than we would

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like to be in the Embrace of the IMF and

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the World Bank but do you think when the

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in campaign the stronger in Britain

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campaign argues that if we leave uh

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Europe we will have less power we'll be

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isolated uh we wouldn't be getting any

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support that we get at this uh moment

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and often and I've heard you before say

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that uh we the Europe is kind of

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controlled uh by unelected uh

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representative what would we would you

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say to their supporters in response to

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that well first of all the influence

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that they mean when they usually talk

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about this is the kind of influence I

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have no wish to exercise they mean

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influence over

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bullying uh uh people in other countries

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they mean influence us in making war

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against other countries like Libya for

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example uh which we and the EU and Obama

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but he didn't want to but sarosi and

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caman drove forward a project to totally

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destroy Libya and look how that has

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worked out so that kind of influence

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actually I don't want I want us to use

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our influence to make Britain better uh

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secondly we'll of course still be a

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country of some importance we have quite

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a big population we have have a big

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economy the fifth biggest in the world

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nobody's going to want to stop selling

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us things mercedesbenz and Audi are not

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going to say well we're not going to

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sell our cars to these British uh people

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who want to buy them they'll still buy

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from us we'll still buy from them we

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won't be leaving Europe we'll just be

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leaving the European Union which is as

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you know a different thing and the way I

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look at it will'll be leaving the

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European Union and rejoining the world

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and in particular will be re joining the

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Commonwealth parts of which have done

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extraordinarily well since we slammed

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the door in their face back in

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1973 India is one of the biggest and

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most important uh economies in the world

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the one country in the world don't like

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anybody interfering in their Sovereign

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countries United States yes uh now

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Barack Obama is going to be coming to

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our country next month wanting to tell

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citizen of this country what we should

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do and shouldn't do don't you think it's

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bit Rich for a president of a country

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who didn't allow anybody else to have

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any say whatsoever want to come and say

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uh to citizen of another sovereign

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country what they should be doing well

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it is extraordinary hypocrisy uh they

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overthrew British rule because they

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couldn't accept uh being influenced or

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governed by a foreign power but they

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want us to be governed by 28 uh foreign

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powers cuz that's what we're talking

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about 28 that will become soon 35 will

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include countries like turkey which are

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on fire which are ravaged right now by

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War we be bringing the Middle East Wars

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right into the European Union with

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freedom of movement um so it is an

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offense actually against democracy that

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President Obama is going to come here

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and lecture us all as to what our future

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should be as you rightly point out he

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would never accept it Americans would

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never accept it from anyone else about

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their Affairs they're in a a a free

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trade area with Canada and Mexico and

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I'm quite happy to trade freely with the

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uh countries of the European Union but

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they would never allow Canada and Mexico

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to make decisions about uh American

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policy uh neither should we uh be ready

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to be out voted by Slovakia and Romania

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yeah um we would never dream of uh

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living United Nation or NATO why should

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Britain leave uh Europe well as for NATO

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uh I would leave it tomorrow I would

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never have joined it NATO is the US

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dominated War Machine uh that has

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dragged us into a series of very

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damaging uh confrontations recently I

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mentioned one of them Libya uh but an

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even more damaging one arguably is the

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confrontation with Russia which is

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completely unnecessary uh it's nothing

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to do with us what happens in Ukraine

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but it's everything to do with Russia

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because 45% of the people of Ukraine are

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Russians yes so they have a vital uh

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stake in that we have no stake in it yet

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we have sanctioned Russia we are

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constantly talking about potential war

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with Russia this is all absurd this

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would mean the end of Humanity on the

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planet if we went to war with Russia a

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multiple nuclear armed power yet NATO is

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moving its borders closer and closer and

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closer to Russia and that's a very

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damaging thing so I would leave NATO

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tomorrow and I regret that labor which

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uh once campaigned uh to review our

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position in NATO has now apparently

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dropped that as for the UN you know

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to leave the UN too I'm not proposing

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that but the UN effectively is uh is a

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play thing of the of the big powers and

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uh worse than that it exercises complete

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double standards so Iraq for example is

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broken on the wheel of United Nations

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sanctions then invaded and occupied and

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look how that turned out whilst Israel

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which has nuclear weap weapons hundreds

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of them has biological weapons has

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chemical weapons has regularly invaded

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and occupied its neighbors and is is

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repressing the Palestinian people day

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and daily in front of our eyes if we

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care to open them not only do they not

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suffer any United Nations sanctions the

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red carpet is rolled out in front of

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their leaders while the Palestinians are

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described as terrorists no I think it's

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a very um crucial point I think for our

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viewers when it comes to Palestinian

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because a lot of people look up to um

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United Nation and to see what steps or

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action they will take against uh Israel

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but there seems to be no action

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whatsoever and as you quite rightly

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pointed out that they roll red carpets

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and I think people sometime wonder what

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is the purpose of having United Nation

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when they're not going to be they're

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supposed to be impartial but they

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dominated by they big players of the

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world and they often are not seem to be

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impartial and they seems to be taking

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sides I think that's right uh if it

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weren't for the existence of some worthy

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United Nations organs like the the

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refugee uh relief and works Agency for

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example without which the Palestinian

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refugees could not eat or their children

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could not be taught I would Advocate

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leaving the United Nations if only to

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provide the shock value that people have

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completely lost confidence in this uh

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organization Israel has broken more

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United Nations resolutions than all the

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other countries in the world put

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together and yet no hint of sanction or

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punishment has there ever been uh to

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punish them for that whilst other

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countries Iraq for example which

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actually as it turned out was not in

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breach of any United Nations resolutions

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it had no weapons of mass destruction

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was broken into pieces and we're all

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paying the price now the Iraqis have

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paid a gigantic price but the rest of us

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are now starting to pay a very big price

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for that too half of uh everything that

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we sell to rest of the world uh we sell

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uh to Europe we rais significant

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revenues of millions and billions of uh

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pound uh every year if we were to leave

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Europe wouldn't uh Britain be

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economically more

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uh at L than uh actually we're paying

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them not them paying us we pay them 50

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50 million every day now as I walk

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around here around Tower hamlets just

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one day of the money we give to the

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European Union could transform the

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landscape here a week we could make this

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uh Las Vegas we can make this Beverly

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Hills so we're paying that uh the net uh

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deficit from us to them is 50 million

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every single day that's £350 million

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every single week uh we'll still sell to

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them and they'll still sell to us and

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they wouldn't dream of putting tariffs

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on our manufactured goods because we

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would put tariff on theirs and we're a

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very big and quite uh prosperous market

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so that will not happen we continue to

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trade with them as Switzerland and other

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countries who are not in the EU trade

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with them the one thing uh that isn't

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spoken but which is the one area in

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which we would be at a disadvantage is

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that the city of London the square mile

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just a few hundred yards from here would

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not have the strangle hold the dominant

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position in the European Union that it

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has now well tough luck uh I I won't any

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tears if Britain's financial sector has

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to readjust its role in the world

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actually most of them ought to be in

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jail never mind uh lording it over the

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European Union it's only in financial

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services that we would suffer any kind

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of economic penalty and uh as I believe

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these bankers and financiers and hedge

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fund managers and the rest are not

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actually involved in economic activity

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at all it's a kind of smoke and mirror

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magic trick all of it it has actually

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brought us down rather than build us up

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it's made some people very very very

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very very very very rich uh but those

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living in its shadow here in to hamlets

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as I always used to say uh looking up at

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the gleaming spires of the city and

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turning left and looking up at the

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gleaming towers of canary Warf but in

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between some of the poorest people in

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England were trying to make a living the

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one uh final thing I want to ask you

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before before we move on to your

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election for London mayor is that um

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couple days ago there was an election

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took place in Germany where the three

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regional election um there been a huge

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gain for anti-immigration uh parties for

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supporting uh for refugees by the German

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Chancellor um obviously this country has

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been very reluctant to welcome refugees

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you know Cameron said 20,000 over next

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uh 5 years or four years um what would

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your message be in terms of uh

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supporting refugees and I know you have

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a very good connection with places like

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Syria and other Middle East countries

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and you have done a lot of work for

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those countries over the many years well

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I think we have to unbundle or separate

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the issues of migration and issues of

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refugees every country has the right to

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decide how many migrants it takes and

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from where it takes them as I said I

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want to take them from Bangladesh from

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India from Pakistan from uh the

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Caribbean because they speak our

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language we have a common history with

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them uh and we owe them big time uh

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that's a separate matter every country

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has an absolute duty to take refugees

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and the only way it can be done is to

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take them fairly uh and David Cameron's

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policy is not fair Anga merel has taken

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aill

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refugees into Germany and David Cameron

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as you rightly say is taking so few that

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you can almost not measure them once

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they're distributed around the country

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that's unfair it's unjust especially if

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you're a member of a so-called European

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union and now the German political uh

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parties or at least the government are

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paying a price at The Ballot Box for uh

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the fact that they have behaved fairly

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it is important to keep this in

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perspective the right-wing far right did

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gain but the parties which remain in

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power in those three regions are people

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who support Angela merkel's policy or

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more uh the social Democrats remain in

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power in one the green party remain in

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power in the second and Angela Merkel

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remains in power in the third so it was

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a disturbing rise but we should keep it

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in that uh perspective Germany is not

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about to become some kind of new Nazi uh

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country not at all um but the real issue

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over the refugees is why they're being

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forced to come here and leave their own

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homes in the first place and as you well

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know uh I have opposed these wars which

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are driving this Refugee crisis 90% of

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the refugees are from three countries

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Afghanistan Iraq and Syria you don't

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have to be Einstein to work out what

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these three countries have in common two

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of them have been invaded and occupied

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by NATO and by countries like ours and

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the third Syria has been devastated by a

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western sponsored War uh paid for by our

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pet dictators in the Gulf um and so we

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are responsible for these refugees we're

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responsible for the fact that they had

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to flee and we're responsible for the

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fact that once they fled they have to

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have a a roof over their heads until

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they can go back home so the best thing

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to do would be to end the wars in these

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three countries of course we should

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never have started the wars in the first

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place but we need to move in the

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direction of ending these wars rather

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than keeping them going as I said you

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also standing to be the mayor of London

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on fifth of uh May uh this year uh it's

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not very long now uh before the election

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day uh comes um how are you different uh

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from sikan or any other candidates and

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why do you believe that real Labor uh

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voters or Corin supporters uh should

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vote for you well I'm standing to

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support Jeremy Corbin's uh policies and

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his approach and the labor candidate

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takes every opportunity every day to

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rubbish Jeremy Corbin and his policies

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and often in the most unsavory places he

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chooses the worst newspapers in which to

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announce the most damaging attacks on

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Jeremy Corbin so if you're a supporter

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of Jeremy Corbin you definitely should

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be supporting me I was uh his comrade in

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Parliament sitting next to him most of

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the time for almost 30 years I marched

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next to him for almost 40 years and if

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I'm elected as mayor I will work with

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him to oppose David Cameron and all his

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Works uh uh as it happens because of the

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election rules you can vote for both you

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can give me your first preference vote

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if you want you can give sadik Khan your

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second preference vote and if I go out

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before sadik Khan then my the vote you

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gave to me just gets transferred over so

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there's no question of splitting the

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vote letting the Tores in or any of that

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uh that we normally face in elections

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when we're standing from the left of

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Labor that doesn't apply in this case so

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I'm hoping that I will come ahead of

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sadik Khan and if I do then uh I think

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most people who vote for him will give

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me their second preference and then I

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could be the mayor of London and it

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would be very different indeed from

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Boris Johnson's era if I became the

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mayor of London think Ken Livingston

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plus Ken Livingston Plus the advances of

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the of the last uh decade almost in

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terms of new technology new ideas and so

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on uh so it would be a London for all

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that's my uh that's my slogan uh a

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London for all not just those dripping

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in Gold you know sadik KH keep saying

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that he'll be the most Pro business

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mayor in London's history well I won't

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be I'll be the most Pro worker mayor in

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London's history business doesn't

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actually need a mayor on their side they

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are already rich and Powerful it's small

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businesses like the kind that

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proliferate around here and workingclass

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people who need a mayor on their side as

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a counterbalance to the rich and

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Powerful not uh a mayor who's actually

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going to plant himself in the interests

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of the Rich and powerful and some people

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will say you are divisive you're toxic

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uh your appeal is limited especially

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when when it comes to T hamlets and

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Bradford what would be your message to

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those uh individuals or well uh as you

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know I I won a pretty historic Victory

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here in tar hamlets uh I defeated one of

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Tony Blair's brightest stars here in

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2005 and uh in 2012 I won the biggest

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swing to the left in British political

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history in the Bradford West byelection

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uh of course if I wear these things no

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one will vote for me in which case

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nobody has anything to worry about what

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they mean when they say that is that I

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make a strong stand and if you make a

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strong stand on something the people who

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take a strong stand to the opposite are

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going to hate you uh I apologize for

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going back to the Palestine issue but if

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you spent 40 years like me standing

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absolutely solid with the Palestinians

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those that love Israel are going to ha

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you and those that love Israel are quite

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powerful people actually a lot of them

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they have uh money they have uh Media

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power they have positions in many media

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organizations and in the political class

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and if they hate you they're going to

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make sure everyone knows why they hate

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you and they're going to distort and and

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lie but these days as your program and

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this television station proves the

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so-called mainstream media is r rapidly

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becoming the lam stream media I have 1

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million followers on social media I can

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now send a message from here to a

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million people without going through a

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single television

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executive without going through a single

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editor or a single

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multi-millionaire uh media owner and

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thus the balance is beginning to shift

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um we're coming uh to end of the show uh

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George um I just want to get what is

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your priority

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um and your ideas uh and how are you are

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different from the other Mayo candidates

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uh in this election well in detail

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people can go to Galloway 2016. London

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that's my new website which gives all of

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my policies but in short uh the housing

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crisis which people in Tower hamlets

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know all about is my number one priority

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I'm going to lead the drive to build

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hundreds of thousands of council houses

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Council houses are the best form of

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housing you get to sack your landlord

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every year in the council elections

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Council housing in which I grew up

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provides the best start for ordinary

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people uh it's not that I'm against

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people owning their homes but we have

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the highest house prices and the highest

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rents in the whole world here in London

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and we have the highest tube fairs

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actually so you get moved out of to

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hamlets as far as the eye can see much

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farther than the eye can see and then

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you have to pay through the nose on the

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world's most expensive tube to come back

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here housing police I'm going to make

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sure that the police looks like London

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and is led by people who look like

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London not looking like an occupation

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force uh sent in by someone else and uh

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on the subject of Transport this is a

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big

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one all students school students college

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students and University students will

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travel free on public transport if I'm

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the mayor because their EMA was stolen

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if they're at school they've had their

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tuition fees tripled to £99,000 a year

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if they're college or university

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students I'm going to make sure London

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gives back to our young people free

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buses free tubes for all school children

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and students that's quite a big offer

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George thank you very much for coming to

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our show no doubt we'll be speaking to

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you more leading up to the election

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finding out exactly what you standing

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for and how you going to represent the

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people of uh London look forward to Dear

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viewers I hope uh you got uh ideas why

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you should uh leave the Europe as

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promised last week we did a show why you

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should stay in you do your research uh

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listen to both side of the argument and

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you'll make your uh decision but on 5th

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of May you'll be making a very important

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uh decision as to how uh London should

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be run and by whom and it is your uh

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decision we have uh Mr Galloway here

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today you heard from him why he's

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standing what are his uh priorities and

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what he's going to be uh doing we will

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invite other candidates to also come and

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put their arguments uh forwards as to

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why uh they are standing again do your

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research uh vote for somebody that you

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feel will stand up for your community

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and your neighbors and the future

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generation of this country and put

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across next to that individual name on

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5th of May thank you for watching

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welfare

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